For some inside perspective on the escape of David Sweat and big-dicked Richard Matt from the Clinton Correctional Facility in upstate New York earlier this week, Fox News turned to one of the prison’s most notorious former inmates: Michael Alig. Oh, OK.

Alig, whose life as a club kid-turned-killer was documented in the 2003 movie Party Monster, was released from the Mid-State Correctional Facility in May 2014, though he supposedly spent some time at Clinton while serving his 17-year sentence. On last night’s episode of The Kelly File, he discussed prison culture, the noise in Clinton that could mask otherwise audible signs of escape, and how the two could have preyed on Clinton employee/suspected accomplice Joyce “Tillie” Mitchell, whom Alig assumes has low self-esteem.

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Toward the end of the interview, Megyn Kelly said, “I know you say you’ve reformed and you’re not the same man you were when you took another person’s life.” Alig confirmed that he has grown in past 20 years and, in a in a stern-taskmaster-but-she-really-likes-him-anyway-kinda-thing kinda way, Kelly replied, “A real lot in your case.” What a nice happy ending to a nice happy interview. She was so soft on Alig, you’d swear he was a Duggar.

Alig also appeared on CNN this week, saying very much the same things he said to Kelly. Congrats on this newest phase in your public-speaking career, Alig.